James Tanner: Unsolved Mysteries: Taylor Hall and the Breakdown of Logic & Common Sense Plagued by the six straight losing season to start his NHL career, Taylor Hall has been diagnosed by Dr. Oz as having loseristis and now no one will have anything to do with him. Except for me, Phil Collins and the State of New Jersey.

What happened Tanner? Team USA's "best player" got his shot, and he crapped the bed.

Yay. Another article about Hall....

Playing less games than everyone shouldn't ever be used as a positive.

How is never being healthy for a full season once in six tries not seen as a negative?

Playing less games than everyone shouldn't ever be used as a positive.

How is never being healthy for a full season once in six tries not seen as a negative?
- Hunkulese

It was more about pointing out that if he hadnt missed games hes probably like the 5th highest scorer overr last 3 yrs.

It was more about pointing out that if he hadnt missed games hes probably like the 5th highest scorer overr last 3 yrs.
- James_Tanner

Except he did miss those games, and you have to factor that in.

If his second half was as good as his first half last year, he would have been top five in scoring. But it wasn't, and he wasn't.

Agree, and again don't always agree with you and sometimes thing can be out there,lol but always makes for discussion! And if people don't like it, why read or post for that matter? Enjoy your blogs thanks jimmy!

P.s.....are you shticky? Lol

It was more about pointing out that if he hadnt missed games hes probably like the 5th highest scorer overr last 3 yrs.
- James_Tanner

Or... It's equally as likely he couldn't keep up that production over the course of an entire season.

Sadly, his situation doesn't improve since he now plays for arguably a worse offensive team.

Unless Hall eventually gets moved again he seems destine to not win a cup. While Shero can be a magician, it's hard to see NJ being a true contender through the remainder if his tenure in the Garden State.

This is why I still argue the trade benefits EDM more than NJ in the long run. People can criticize Chiarelli all they want for the Hall trade straight up, but he accomplished a lot in this off-season.

I don't think you'll hear one person utter "if only they got more out of that trade" when EDM finishes in the top three in the west for years to come.

Hall will be an afterthought while he wastes away in NJ.

Hockey is a team sport. His team sucked. He will get criticized. Get over it. No player on that team has immunity from it. This was a crappy blog. By the way, everyone knows he is a pretty good player. There's no need to attempt to impress anyone by stating it in such a passive aggressive "I know more than you" way. I feel like you sometimes stand there, shouting to your doorknob that clouds are made of tiny droplets of water and ice crystals.

Lousy backchecker, apathetic during stretches of the season, dominant personality on a losing team.

since when has "drives possession" become more important than leading your team to the playoffs?

Playing less games than everyone shouldn't ever be used as a positive.

How is never being healthy for a full season once in six tries not seen as a negative?
- Hunkulese

He played in 82 games this past season. That is a full season is it not?

James Tanner: Unsolved Mysteries: Taylor Hall and the Breakdown of Logic & Common Sense
Plagued by the six straight losing season to start his NHL career, Taylor Hall has been diagnosed by Dr. Oz as having loseristis and now no one will have anything to do with him. Except for me, Phil Collins and the State of New Jersey.
- James_Tanner

Hall scored more points in less games over the last three years while playing better defense than Tarasenko did.

You need someone to check your facts, Tanner.
Hall 210GP and 183 points last 3 seasons
Tarasenksho 221GP and 190 points over the last 3 seasons.
Also not sure why you say Hall played better defense, but I guess we just take your word for it simply because you said so. Even though Tarasenko is a +54 and Hall is a -20 over the last 3 seasons.

In my entire life watching hockey, I've never seen anything like this.

This is my favorite part of the blog. How much hockey do you, or have you actually watched? Using fancy pie charts to compare players, isn't watching hockey.

Hall scored more points in less games over the last three years while playing better defense than Tarasenko did.

You need someone to check your facts, Tanner.
Hall 210GP and 183 points last 3 seasons
Tarasenksho 221GP and 190 points over the last 3 seasons.
Also not sure why you say Hall played better defense, but I guess we just take your word for it simply because you said so. Even though Tarasenko is a +54 and Hall is a -20 over the last 3 seasons.

In my entire life watching hockey, I've never seen anything like this.

This is my favorite part of the blog. How much hockey do you, or have you actually watched? Using fancy pie charts to compare players, isn't watching hockey.
- leonkennedy

he also says Nugent-Hopkins plays great defense and is a bargain at 6 million a year

why, because he says so

ya i don't get why we keep beating this dead horse. Chiarelli is gambling on Larsson. he had a weakness and addressed it by dealing from a position of strength. at face value this is a stupid trade but when looking how the Oilers were constructed before the trade, it's certainly less stupid and the logic is clear.

if you ask me, Chiarelli put his balls on the line with one. i see absolutely nothing conservative in this trade; i see calculated risk. the other option was status quo on defence. THAT would have been conservative and it would have gotten him roasted even more.

Hall helped Canada to win the IIHF Worlds the past 2 years. He deserves a shot on the current Team Canada roster and should have been named initially.
I agree with your blog Tanner...thanks.

ya i don't get why we keep beating this dead horse. Chiarelli is gambling on Larsson. he had a weakness and addressed it by dealing from a position of strength. at face value this is a stupid trade but when looking how the Oilers were constructed before the trade, it's certainly less stupid and the logic is clear.

if you ask me, Chiarelli put his balls on the line with one. i see absolutely nothing conservative in this trade; i see calculated risk. the other option was status quo on defence. THAT would have been conservative and it would have gotten him roasted even more.
- DoubleDown

Pretty easy...so long as Hall keeps being shunned by Team Canada each time a forward goes down & is replaced, it's a valid topic. Hockey is passion in Canada so that's why this is relevant.

It was more about pointing out that if he hadnt missed games hes probably like the 5th highest scorer overr last 3 yrs.
- James_Tanner

.... and Lupul would be top 10 if he were healthy for an entire season.

The fact that Chiarelli had to trade Hall to address a team need, shows you the value of quality defenseman in the league. Moral is, you better draft and develop your own defenseman.

Curious as to one thing though, On Edmonton"To say they were mismanaged is far too kind. It would be more accurate to say that they were ran into the ground by a level of incompetence that is nearly incomprehensible at this level. " IF that the case, why do you keep picking them to be a playoff team, James? Seems like a contradiction.

After you said that he was 9th in scoring, and played less games than anyone above him...

how did any other stat or chart you used improve your argument?

It didn't.

This blog (in addition to being the what 3rd, 4th? time you have written it) could have been like one line long.

Chico got his guy when he acquired Lucic. Not comparing Hall and Lucic though as Hall has the edge there every time. But 23 year-old defensemen still coming into their prime aren't exactly a dime a dozen these days and you need to anti-up. Can't blame a GM that's tired of watching his team lose by 5-6 goals in their own building night after night. It was pretty empty back there on the blue-line.

ya i don't get why we keep beating this dead horse. Chiarelli is gambling on Larsson. he had a weakness and addressed it by dealing from a position of strength. at face value this is a stupid trade but when looking how the Oilers were constructed before the trade, it's certainly less stupid and the logic is clear.

if you ask me, Chiarelli put his balls on the line with one. i see absolutely nothing conservative in this trade; i see calculated risk. the other option was status quo on defence. THAT would have been conservative and it would have gotten him roasted even more.
- DoubleDown

Chiarelli thought he was geting Ekman-Larsson.

Why do we keep reverting to cherry picked stats? Why is the entire article based on the past 3 seasons, 5v5? Is there no more to this player? Can we not see how he performed on the pp or shorthanded? What about plus minus? Time on ice compared to his peers? Shots generated? Shots blocked? As I recall you believe that Tanner Glass could score at the same rats as OV if he simply shot the puck enough, so let's get SOG in there for sure.

See, if hall is "literally a top ten forward by any measurement", then why are we getting but the one measurement?

C'mon, you're smart. Try to believe that other people are too and treat us to the big picture